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Discussion starter · #21 · (Edited)
Yup, Mike beat me to it. We made a slight error with the decimals for the display there... Flash back to "Office Space" anyone? :D

The function works correctly just assume X.XXX like the attached screen shot...

Fixed in the next SW release...

Best,

Phil
 

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I am pondering if something like this would be possible. I do not have a full understanding of how the system works, so I may be completely off base.

If the car uses a narrowband O2 sensor and lambda is at 0.450V, would it be possible to use a wideband sensor instead and change the target voltage to 2.5V or whatever a Bosch wideband hits at lambda? That way the car still functions overall the same, but in the datalog you could see the voltage of a wideband sensor and use it tune at WOT?

Again, I don't know what kind of algorithm is going on in the background, so this may be completely impossible. But something I have always wondered about ECU's.
 
On the support forums you can see there is already a way to datalog the wideband output. You can certainly run a simulated narrowband input into the ECU but electrically it uses a 0-1.25v signal so there is not a lot of resolution to accurately run closed loop using the wideband under load. I'm not especially fond of relying on closed loop for high load fuel anyway. Accurate tuning is best used to achieve the target AFR rather than relying on O2 feedback.

-Michael
 
On the support forums you can see there is already a way to datalog the wideband output.
Are you talking about this forum or something different? I did not easily find anything related to that.
 
Discussion starter · #28 ·
On the Wideband 02 stuff:

We will work on an instructional piece for the WB integration as soon as possible... As Hackish said, it is already in the software for DATA LOGGING ONLY.

Here's a 30,000 foot (9,144 meters for our metric friends:)) overview of how it works. You need a WB controller obviously. One with 0-5V out such as the NGK AFX (that's what we use. It's fast, accurate, and easy to read, with an 02 that will last longer than the bosch ones). You run the 0-5V out to a specific open socket on the OBD2 port. The tactrix cable will pull that 0-5V data and send it to the Fastworks software so that you can view and log WB 02. Again, the ECU doesn't run on this data, but it makes tuning easier for sure when you have this info on the data list... I'll lay it all out in the instructions with the specific socket to use, the pin needed, etc... It's not too hard at all... We're doing a massive software release with T4 launch shortly, which is why T4 is taking so long. At that time, I'll have rewrite instructions, which is partly why I haven't written the WB02 instruction piece yet...


NA tune, the Torque 200:D: Yes, actually. It's in a few cars now, I just haven't released it on the website. Everyone says that it was a transforming tune. I agree. Different than other aftermarket tunes for NA cars that just moved the cam switch point, we totally remapped the cam and spark tables to pick up a pile of midrange power. The cam shift is lowered but only to 5900 on the way up and 5700 on the way down. So that means when going up through first, it will switch to big cam at 5900 and it will stay on big cam when shifting to 2nd, as the motor does not switch back to the small cam until 5700. It's very easy to make a 1-2 shift and keep it on the big cam this way. With the new cam phasing we worked up, there was no reason to have the cam shift down at 5700 with everything else otherwise stock.

The NA Torque 200 tune comes with the same datalogging and diagnosis software that the other Torque tunes come with. That software can always be upgraded to the level 1/2 ECU editor suites as well. Just as with the others, I can customize the tune a fair bit. Given that there are way more modififed F/I cars than NA, it will take a while before my library is as well compiled for various mods on the N/A cars obviously... Pricing for Torque 200 is the same as Torque 300...

Cheers,

Phil
 
Are you talking about this forum or something different? I did not easily find anything related to that.
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You may need to be logged in to view it. I ran into too many problems with people just copying my tech articles and reposting them as their own. I've been so busy working on the T4 stuff that Phil and I haven't gotten to re-working that little diddy to be lotus specific but FastWorks or BOE FastWorks is all the same technology so the article applies to both. When we get a few minutes I'm sure Phil will get it up on his tech wiki as well.

-Michael
 
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You may need to be logged in to view it. I ran into too many problems with people just copying my tech articles and reposting them as their own. I've been so busy working on the T4 stuff that Phil and I haven't gotten to re-working that little diddy to be lotus specific but FastWorks or BOE FastWorks is all the same technology so the article applies to both. When we get a few minutes I'm sure Phil will get it up on his tech wiki as well.

-Michael
Ok, thanks Michael. That sub forum didn't show up to guests :) Once I get that hooked up do I go into Gauges and add one of the various channels? Does the channel have a specific name?

Also with the new software release will we be able to set a custom gauge selection instead of the default selection?
 
Phil,
Sorry to keep bugging you (well, not really:), but is Torque 200 going on the site soon or is it a purchasable but not on site item?
Pete
I'm also interested in the Torque200 for my 06. Sounds like a great tune to hold me over until I get a supercharger (if ever). It looks like $1,010 for the tune and cable.

Do you have any dyno charts or reviews/thoughts from current users of the Torque200?

How does it compare to the KoldFire 200 tune?
 
I'm also interested in the Torque200 for my 06. Sounds like a great tune to hold me over until I get a supercharger (if ever). It looks like $1,010 for the tune and cable.

Do you have any dyno charts or reviews/thoughts from current users of the Torque200?

How does it compare to the KoldFire 200 tune?
I see, tune $500 and cable $160, right?
 
Discussion starter · #37 ·
I see, tune $500 and cable $160, right?
The Torque200 is quite a bit different than any other NA tune and software package on the market. MUCH MUCH different cam and spark, among some 3 dozen other table changes and equally important, the Torque tunes all come with the flash, datalogging, and diagnostic software. Keep in mind, the other NA tunes on the market just play with cam shift. That's obviously not the case with the Torque 200.

The cost of the torque tunes and software is 850 plus the cable (160). So they are more expensive-- and rightfully so, IMO. You get a lot more with the torque tunes--- beyond a tune that is more customizable than any other, you get the software. As these cars age, that software will become more and more important;)

We've been so busy lately, that I have not updated the website for the 200 tune. If you would like that tune, send an email to sales@boefabrication.com and we'll get you taken care of. It makes a fair bit more torque all throughout the midrange than the KF200 and Lotus sport tunes.


As for 2005. Still in the near term. Sorting out the software to recognize both ECU types and do all the things we wanted it to do seemlessly through the OBD port is taking more code writing time than we anticipated... FWIW- We're able read and write the 2005s just fine as it is... just getting the UI (user interface) sorted out for ya'll :up:

Phil
 
I think I found a small bug. In version 99.53.59, if I enable VSS (I switch it to MPH) in the gauge list and enable data logging, when I turn off data logging the program crashes. It also writes the VSS tab in the data log as kilometer even though I selected MPH. I haven't tried keeping it on KPH and seeing if it crashes.
 
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