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Light Bulb Conversions 2005

46K views 28 replies 21 participants last post by  thewongairline  
#1 · (Edited)
Light Bulb Conversions Applicable for 2005 Elise

REAR LIGHT CLUSTER - See position code 1 - 6 below.

H21 = 68191, 12356 Philips, 64136 Osram
21W, 9mm Base, Offset Bayonet
3 - Rear Turn Indicators, 4 - Stop Lamps, 5 - Reversing Lamps.

P21/4W = 7225 P21-4W, 1345, 0498
21W / 4W, 15mm Base, Offset Bayonet, Double Contacts, Double Elements.
6 - Tail/Stop Lamp, 1 - Tail/Turn Lamp.

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PY21W Amber = 7507 Amber
21W, 15mm Base, Offset Bayonet
Front Turn Indicator.

W5W = 168
5W, Wedge Base
Front Side/Parking Lamps, Interior Lamp.

WY5W Amber = 17169, 2827 Osram, 12396 Philips
5W, Wedge Base
Side Repeater Lamp.

C5W = 6418
5W, Festoon 35mm x 11mm
Licence Plate Lamp

H1 - Headlight Low Beam 55W
H7 - Headlight High Beam 55W
 
#2 ·
Nice work thanks:clap:

BTW: Do you have what the LED replacement lamp part numbers?
 
#4 ·
W5W is 194...I replaced my parking lights with Blue LEDs. interior light is also 194

WY5W may also be 194...not sure yet. I was going to put in LEDs there also.

For LED taillights, the reverse bulb is either 916 or 921.
 
#5 · (Edited)
shay2nak said:
W5W is 194...I replaced my parking lights with Blue LEDs. interior light is also 194

WY5W may also be 194...not sure yet. I was going to put in LEDs there also.

For LED taillights, the reverse bulb is either 916 or 921.
Actually a W5W is 5W, a 194 is 3.78W. The 168 that I stated is correct at 4.9W.
The WY5W is also 5W but amber in color, therefore the bulb numbers I quoted are also correct.
If someone could provide me with 2006 & 2007 bulb types, if different, I can do the same.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Everything seems applicable to the 2006 Exige, with the obvious differences of the LED tail, brake, and turn lamps. The driving lamps are H3 although I don't know if they can be replaced. Surprised you didn't list the headlights H1 (low) & H7 (high) for 2005-2006 and H7 (both) for 2007 & up.

From what I've read, most people appear to have better luck with replacing the 6418 with a 39mm bulb.
 
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#11 ·
I just had to replace my rear tail lamp bulbs for 4 and 6 in the diagram above, and went to autozone to look for bulbs. I had to do some trial and error to find the ones that fit, as Sylvania conversions are not listed above (Osram have slightly different model numbers as I found out).

The brake/tail lamp (6, inner cluster, inner bulb) was a Sylvania 7228 (not 7225 as suggested above) with 2 filaments and a double contacts.

The brake lamp (4, inner cluster, outer bulb) was a Sylvania 7506 with one filament and single contact.

Perhaps the list could be updated to reflect bulbs from Sylvania as well.
 
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I decided to replace all the lights I could easily get to with LEDs on my 2006 Elise. I like the fact that the temperature is cooler, they last WAY longer, and I can change a few colors around. It turns out that finding the right part numbers was more difficult that I had thought and I ended up having to order 3 different times and some of the ones I first ordered were incorrect - the socket fit, but the bulb was too big.

Perhaps I can save some time for anyone contemplating this task. The numbers in brackets are the superbrightleds.com model numbers. They way their model numbers work is that you replace the "x" with a one or two character code to specify color. These sizes might work on an 07 too because according to my service notes they're the same. I know 05 is different, and I don't know about 08+. As with all LEDs - make sure you get the polarity correct before putting the covers back on - they won’t work if you get the +- backwards!

1) Front/side parking lights (running lights): W5W, 5W, 194/168 type [WLED-xHP9-T]. You will need two of these. They fit in the headlight housing. I bought the white (WLED-WHP9-T) model. My guess is anything other than white or yellow might cause legal trouble since they're always on and in the front of car. You might be able to fit these, but it will be very tight fit: WLED-WHP13-T (brighter). They also have a 15 and 18 LED version, but they're only brighter by a very small amount (and dimmer for some colors) so it's not worth the extra price. Access to these requires getting to the headlight housing. It's possible to do with the tire on, but much easier if you just remove it. Of all the LED replacements, these probably take the longest.

2) Side repeater lamps: W5W, 5W, 194/168 type [WLED-x6]. You will need two. I got the WLED-CW6 (cool white). There is a clear amber colored plastic cover already in there, so take that into account when you choose a color. These can be accessed from under the wheel wells. If you take the tires off they're really easy to access.

3) Front turn signals: PY21W, 21W, [BAU15S-x18-T]. I got the amber ones (BAU15S-A18-T). Note - there is no clear plastic amber in there - so whatever color you get, that's what you'll see! I’m pretty sure that these have to be amber or something close or the cops will get angry. Access is super easy. IMPORTANT - you need to get a flasher unit if you want these to work. See next item.

4) Flasher Unit: [CF13GL-02]. You will need one of these if you replace the turn signals with LEDs. It's located under the dash on the passenger side. Get ready to play upside down twister!

5) Reverse lights: W16W, 921 type [WLED-xHP13-T]. You will need 2. I got these in blue (WLED-BHP13-T). I don't think cops will care too much about the color since it's only when you reverse. It's tricky getting the right polarity if you don't have someone around - I had to use the video camera in my phone. Remember, unlike with filaments, LEDs require you to have the +- correct! You access them via the trunk.

6) License Plate light: C5W, 5W [3910-x6]. There are TWO of these and they are 39mm. I got blue ones (3910-B6). I know NM allows small blue lights if they're non-flashing and not on the front of the car. I also know, (found out the hard way), that MT doesn't allow it so it depends on the state. These are very easy to replace - just 4 screws. EDIT: OK, DON'T GET BLUE! I just got pulled over and the cop said license plate ones have to be white. Since the blues were actually much brighter than the old white ones, he said that it was really just an excuse to pull me over. Also, apparently they won't accept you pulling up your insurance documents on your phone as proof of insurance. I'm so glad that we voted for politicians who come up with these petty laws so our police can teach us hard working tax paying citizens what they can do when they're not chasing real bad guys.

7) Start button light: [MG-x-WV]. I got blue (MG-B-WV). The blue is a bit too bright for me. I might put something in there to dim it. You only need one. There are directions somewhere in these forums to get it off - it takes about 5-10 minutes once you know how.

8) Dome light: W5W, 5W, 194/168 type [WLED-xHP5]. This is the one right behind your seat. I bought blue (WLED-BHP5). You only need one. Popping the cover off requires pushing in some hidden tabs on the right hand side. It's easy to break. I HATE plastic tabs! The space allotted for the bulb is very small. Originally I had ordered the 9 LED version, but found out that it was too big. The 5 LED one gives off plenty of light though and is brighter than the original filament bulb.

--luke
 
#17 ·
I installed the DMT 55W HID Low beam kit on my car and it worked great. On a few occasions it would be nice to have the High beams as well but I'm not sure if I should install another HID fit or I found some high wattage H7 LEDs (68 LEDs). Would the LEDs be a better option since they will not be on all the time and they are only used sparingly?
 
#18 · (Edited)
My list of LED replacement bulbs I have from superbrightleds.com for my non LED '05 Elise

Reverse
2 x WLED-xHP13-T: 194 LED Bulb - 13 SMD LED Wedge Base Tower WLED-WHP13-T: Cool White $14.95 each these are completely incorrect, hope no one ordered them like I did:confused:

Rear Tail Light
4 x 1156-x45-T: 1156 LED Bulb - Single Intensity 45 SMD LED Tower 1156-R45-T: 1156 Red $24.95 each

2x Rear Light/Turn, 2x Rear Light/Brake
4 x 1157-x45-T: 1157 LED Bulb - Dual Intensity 45 SMD LED Tower 1157-R45-T: 1157 Red $24.95 each

Side Repeater
2 x WLED-x6: 194 LED Bulb - 6 LED Wedge Base WLED-A6: Amber $2.79 each

Turn Signal Flash
1 x CF13GL-02: CF13GL-02 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher $ 12.95 each

Front Turn Signal
2 x BAU15S-x18-T: 18HP-LED 7507 LED Tower bulb Amber $17.95 each
 
#20 ·
other than the reverse bulbs, the rest are super bright, immediate response like LEDS do, pictures are pretty worthless
 
#22 ·
Reverse Bulbs

I just bought a used '05 Elise about a months ago.

The air con feels like an asthmatic old man blowing on an ice cube. Lotus dealer says my A/C is in spec--nothing wrong, so I took the car to have windows tinted to help the A/C.

It was tough to see out the back before the tint, so I thought it would be good to get some brighter reverse bulbs. After reading this thread and doing some research, I think I found the best option:

2pcs High Power 30W Xenon White 120° BAY9S H21W 64136 CREE XB D LED Lights Bulbs | eBay

The stock bulbs are halogen, which put out 600 lumens. Most of the LED bulbs out there put out significantly less light, but these claim 800 lumens. Half the output is directed straight back into a beam through an integrated lens.

These are "error free," meaning they have resistors built-in so the low current draw won't cause a fault in the car's systems.

I have a few concerns, and I'd like to hear from anyone who may have tried these bulbs or similar.

1.) Will they physically fit?
2.) Will the actual usable light be greater than the stock bulbs? The reflectors in the housing were optimized for the positioning of an incandescent filament, so it's possible that the greater light output of the LED won't achieve a better result.
3.) could heat be a problem? Might these melt the clear covers on the housing?
4.) The stock bulbs are 21 Watts. This LED is 30, if I'm reading it right. Any chance I could blow a fuse or worse?

I have already ordered. If I am the guinea pig, then I'll report back.
 
#24 ·
I just bought a used '05 Elise about a months ago.

The air con feels like an asthmatic old man blowing on an ice cube. Lotus dealer says my A/C is in spec--nothing wrong, so I took the car to have windows tinted to help the A/C.

It was tough to see out the back before the tint, so I thought it would be good to get some brighter reverse bulbs. After reading this thread and doing some research, I think I found the best option:

2pcs High Power 30W Xenon White 120° BAY9S H21W 64136 CREE XB D LED Lights Bulbs | eBay

The stock bulbs are halogen, which put out 600 lumens. Most of the LED bulbs out there put out significantly less light, but these claim 800 lumens. Half the output is directed straight back into a beam through an integrated lens.

These are "error free," meaning they have resistors built-in so the low current draw won't cause a fault in the car's systems.

I have a few concerns, and I'd like to hear from anyone who may have tried these bulbs or similar.

1.) Will they physically fit?
2.) Will the actual usable light be greater than the stock bulbs? The reflectors in the housing were optimized for the positioning of an incandescent filament, so it's possible that the greater light output of the LED won't achieve a better result.
3.) could heat be a problem? Might these melt the clear covers on the housing?
4.) The stock bulbs are 21 Watts. This LED is 30, if I'm reading it right. Any chance I could blow a fuse or worse?

I have already ordered. If I am the guinea pig, then I'll report back.
Sadly, no bueno.

The lights work fine, but are just a bit dimmer than OEM. I'm sure they put out more lumens, but the housing, lens and reflectors were optimized to throw light from a filament at a very specific location. I think much of the light from the LED is scattered. The difference is minimal. I had to stand behind the car with a piece of cardboard blocking one light, then the other to be sure.
 
#23 · (Edited)
I had a spare set of inner backup/brake lights, so I took apart the harness and moved some pins around and then used the harness on the outer turn signal lights so that the rear turn indicator blinks out of the middle orange lense like on European cars. I have an extra wire and if I connect it to the brake light on the other harness, then all four lights will illuminate when I step on the brakes. Only thing is that I need to get LED bulbs since I would blow a fuse having 84 watts of light instead of the normal 42.

I heard that bulb colors work best if they match the lense color, so I wanted to get yellow halogen bulbs to replace the white ones that were in the original harness since they were now lighting up the turn indicator. The only ones that I could find were on luckybike.com. They were about $8 for 4 bulbs. I tried them and they worked fine for the flashing turn signals. Then I figured I would take the 2 extra bulbs and use them to replace the regular white back up bulbs. BIG MISTAKE- After turning on the backup lights and going to see if they worked, everything was fine. But after a minute I smelled smoke and saw that it was coming from the bulbs! Nothing caught on fire and no fuses blew but the inside of the bulb had burn marks on it. I looks like they might use paint to make them orange and then it starts smoking as the bulb gets hot. Once I put the original white bulbs back in everything was fine.